Above are the lyrics from 'Forever and Always', the song Taylor Swift wrote about former boyfriend Joe Jonas. There are letters randomly capitalized. It you write them down and spell them out it says, 'If you play these games, were both going to lose.' Thx Niki!
woah :o
wow, thats realy clever
thats so cool i mean that someone actually noticed that in 2 hours im gonna go buy the cd
FIRST
Wow
huh i dont get it, why should that be a secret message, anyone could have done that
dumb
btw first yay
wow, that's wierd
WOOHOO go taylor.
you show that player (:
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team taylor!
forget the jb, they're all heartbreakers!
HUH, i dont get it why should that be a secret mesage anyone could have written that
duuumb
btw first
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MUAHAHA
OHH THEY WERE SO CUTE :(
HUH, i dont get it why should that be a secret mesage anyone could have written that
duuumb
btw first
that's clever hahaha.
poor girl
Taylor Swift rocks! This is awesome.
I do hope she moves on from it soon though, it's kind of going into overkill.
that's AWESOME.
this album is amazing :]
How would someone figure that out???
I never would have noticed that!
that's clever haha,
poor girl
ooooooooooooh!
ooh she is soo great!!
she showed jooee!
serves him right for being sooo horrible!!
that's AWESOME. and this album is amazing :]
wow i love subliminal messages.
gosh 1st the lionking and sex.
then the little mermaid
then disney channel
then now taylor swift.
what has the world gone to?
all these secret messagesss.
First
I LOVE TAYLOR!!!
haha :-)
i love taylor she totally speaks her mind:-P
i swear ive heard this before somewhere...
IF YOU PLAY THESE GAMES WERE BOTH GOING TO LOSE
taylor has a cool way of speaking her mind and getting things out there
GREAT
now everyone is gonna sayyyy how they hate her, and how immature she is, and how she needs to move on.
please.... stop worshiping joe and his brothers.
yeah well they both did lose. :/
your dumb, those are the only capital letter gosh.
MOST STUPID THING I EVER SEE IN OCEANUP!!!!!!
COME ON
IF THERE'S NOTHIG TO TALK ABOUT, JUST DON'T TALK ANYTHING OK!
seriously she should move on
that's really clever.
aha. but. i agree.
they both did lose.
:/ i like them both, though.
team taylor :)
you guys forgot to circle the capitol H,it says
if you play tese games were both going to lose,
its really suppose to be like this,
if you play these games were both going to lose,
sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!
The message says "IF YOU PLAY TESE GAME SWERE BOTH GOING TO LOSE"
She's writing in Old english text from the 13th century
WOOOOOOOWW.. taylor takes these breakups really hard. poor girl, needs to get over joe. damnnn
oh sneaky sneaky. ahaha.
i would expect her to do something like that too. like put a message, but like hidden.
it's actually pretty awesome. ahaha.
but they did both lose, apparently.
well. that's heartbreak. it sucks.
hey im sorry to tell this to you guys here in oceanup.com but you guys made a tiny mistake you guys forgot to circle the H this is how you guys did it,
if you play tese games were both going ot lose,
ok now i wrote them down to show my friend and i looked over it and this is how its supposed of been done,
if you play these games were both going to lose,
im sorry i love reading your gossip but im helping ya to be successful ok bye !!! :D
Creepy..
Obsessive.
GO Taylor im on her side forget the JBS and that is so sneaky how she would do that. Well the JBS ARE SOON to be USED TO BE
TEAM JONAS!
TAYLOR IS GETTING WAAAAY TOO OBSESSIVE!
Tay!!!!omg!!!!yeah!!!'If you play these games, were both going to lose"
WOOOW ROFLLLL
shes kind of creepy..
lol. aahh i love her.
i love her guts.
amazing
its actually in all of her songs not only forever and always i noticed it right away
she's creepy..
Clever,but I would think if she did that on purpose it should've been more scandalous. Maybe something like, hope ur dick falls off or kissing joe was like kissing a fish or something like that.Or if she would've turned his own song against him,I was so blind now I finally see everything you did to me.THAT would've been a good one.
WOOOOOOOWW.. taylor takes these breakups really hard. poor girl, needs to get over joe. damnnn
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god forbid, she might have actually cared about him. its her album. i mean, geez.
Okay, I reall like Taylor and I LOVE the song Forever And Always, but MAN she needs to get over it now.
I mean, she's making a super huge deal about it, more of a big deal than Miley.
C'mon, I think Joe, and the rest of the world, has gotten the message already...
She's pissed, okay. Enough.
Hahh that's cool.
She is one smart cookie
Wow, that's actually really cool, but again she's taking this a bit too far. We live and learn and I don't the lesson has hit her yet. I mean, it's good to get some of your emotions out and bash someone, but you can't stay bitter about it.
if you check the album booklet it has it in every song.
i'll try and work it out.
i'm using internet pictures though due to it not being onsale here in the UK so ive gotta wait for it to be shipped over hereee
hm, interesting.
i truly feel bad for her.
i'm on huge fan of the jonas brothers,
but i think joe made a mistake..
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ahahhahhahaahahh!
that makes me laugh ,
(:
jeeze joe, what games are you playing !?
(dont worry, im still a fan of taylor and the jonas brothers)
SHES SOOOOOOOOOO RUDE!!!!! I HATE HOW SHES BEING A JERK TO JOE!!!!!!!!
haa I died laughing reading that u should make ur own blogging website cuz it would probably be better then oceanup
Just so you all know Taylor puts little messages in all of the songs on her album. She did it with the first one as well. Its not like she singled out that specific song. She has even told people that there were little messages in the lyrics of the song.
wow i love subliminal messages.
gosh 1st the lionking and sex.
then the little mermaid
then disney channel
then now taylor swift.
what has the world gone to?
all these secret messagesss.
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ahaha
there's also those secret messages in songs on youtube when you watch it and BAM! the creepy girl from the exorcist pops up! lol
"If You Play These Games Were Both Going To Lose"...wow I feel sorry for Taylor I mean I love Joe but breaking up with a girl on the phone is just heart breaking I mean I understand he was like in Europe or something but he could've at least made the phone call more than 27 seconds...=(
aww but omgosh that cool how she did that secret message thingy!!
Okay so I love Tay, but honestly, she needs to stop talking about the break-up. I know Joe is a super jerk and stuff for breaking up with her on the PHONE!...but in interviwes all she ever talks about is the details of the break-up and stuff and it's starting to get annoying. If she doesn't stop, she'll end up like Miley Cyrus talking about it all the time and then when she gets a new boyfriend she'll get hate for no reason.
She does that in all of her songs... in both of her CDs...
Okay, I reall like Taylor and I LOVE the song Forever And Always, but MAN she needs to get over it now.
I mean, she's making a super huge deal about it, more of a big deal than Miley.
C'mon, I think Joe, and the rest of the world, has gotten the message already...
She's pissed, okay. Enough.
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lol. wow. more then miley? im pretty sure tay doesnt havea full 17 spread about it. she talked about him twice. its really not a big deal at all.
Whoah, you Go Girl!
Don't let those stupid Bushy Brows
get you down!
=)
err ..
they r random letters Circled :S
They Could Spell Anything
They Just Happen to Spell Tht ....
wow Joe shoUld have never left her cuz now Shes pissed
poor Taylor she needs A New guy tO get over him oh well thaTs really messed up How he dumpEd heR over the phone I Guess he isn't as nice as we thought and all U crazed fans Y do u worShip the jbs
(ps. read all the capitals I wrote alitttle hidden message of my own)
go tayswift! :D
take that joe you big manhoee :p
OMJ
Im sorry buti love da Jonas Brothers so im kinda on Joes side
But then agen i love Taylor Swifts songs so im kinda on her side.....
i dunno but it kinda sweet
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Okay so I love Tay, but honestly, she needs to stop talking about the break-up. I know Joe is a super jerk and stuff for breaking up with her on the PHONE!...but in interviwes all she ever talks about is the details of the break-up and stuff and it's starting to get annoying. If she doesn't stop, she'll end up like Miley Cyrus talking about it all the time and then when she gets a new boyfriend she'll get hate for no reason.
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she talked about him twice. it is ok. it reallyyy isn't that big of a deal, like at all.
EVERYONE SHE TOLD US THERE WOULD BE SECRET MESSAGES WITH RANDOM CAPITOL LETTERS!
youre all like omg how did u fiqure it out
SHE TOLD US!!AHAHA
she reads oceanUP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K598MkpZaGE&eurl=http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/11/11/taylor-swift-interview-justjaredcom-exclusive-2/
That was super clever!!! Jonas Brothers are a pain in my asss!!
I loved you Before I met You- Fearless
i cried while recording this- fifteen
Some day ill find this- love story
love and theft- hey stephen
all i ever wanted was the truth- white horse
Love is blind so you couldnt see me- you belong with me
im sorry im sorry im sorry-breathe
guess i was fooled by your smile-tell me why
she can have you-You're not sorry
we cant go back- the way I loved you
If you keep playing these games, we're both going to lose- always and forever
god bless andrea swift- The best days
you made things change for me- change
i love how she does that, I noticed the capitals when I got her first CD,
And so I wrote them down and found all the messages.
My sister thought that it was just a coincidence.
I normally am not a country fan but taylor is ok. I am a huge jb fan and i am really dissaponited thattaylor is doing this. who knows, maybe joe really is a jerk but, maybe she is just angry and is making this up. I DON't know... this is definetly going to far thoug...
p.s. clever idea
jonas brothers just posted a new video
taylors getting wayyyy to public with this breakup...
taylor is clever.
go team taylor
go team jonas
i support them both :D
if you look at the chorus of fearless, it says i loved you before i met you
Hahaha Thats awesome!!
GO TAYLOR!!!
okay i figured out most :
_________ means i couldnt figure out the word lol. the pictures im going off are blurry
You made things change for me ~ Change
She can have you ~ You're Not Sorry
We can't go back ~ The Way I Loved You
Someday I'll find ____ ~ Love Story
God Bless and ________ ~ Best Day
Love and the ______ ~ Hey Stephen
All I ever wanted was the truth ~ White Horse
Loves blind so you couldn't see me ~ You Belong With Me
I cried while recording this - Fifteen
I loved you before ______ - Fearless
??????
um excuse me have u dated a jonas brohter... NO!
dont take sides of people you dont know stop being a hater because they never dated you... your a nobodyyy , at least ive hung out with them before...
so get a life and try to meet them one day then tell me what u like ;D
What games is he playing?? jw..
whoa! i would have thought it was just a typo(s).....lol
thats awesome tho, i wound have never though of that!
um excuse me have u dated a jonas brohter... NO!
dont take sides of people you dont know stop being a hater because they never dated you... your a nobodyyy , at least ive hung out with them before...
so get a life and try to meet them one day then tell me what u like ;D
Creepy O.O lol
I LOVE TAYLOR!
I love her! I really need to go out and buy her CD! =]
i love taylorrr !
i dont get what the message is ahah
i can't figure it outt !
Wow! thats cool.
well I guess he had to no that she was going to do something like write a song about him
SOMEBODY has way too much time on their hands ... i never woulda noticed that , haha
I loved you Before I met You- Fearless
i cried while recording this- fifteen
Some day ill find this- love story
love and theft- hey stephen
all i ever wanted was the truth- white horse
Love is blind so you couldnt see me- you belong with me
im sorry im sorry im sorry-breathe
guess i was fooled by your smile-tell me why
she can have you-You're not sorry
we cant go back- the way I loved you
If you keep playing these games, we're both going to lose- always and forever
god bless andrea swift- The best days
you made things change for me- change
OMFG. That is SO AWESOME. Ilh.
cool. im kinda mad at joe. what a hoe. to cheat on her. whatever though hes still wonderful. hah i hope they get back together. cause im sure she still has feelings for him. cause in the ryan seacrest interview she looked so sad talking about him. anyway hopefully he will realize their perfect together!
all the songs had hidden messages!!!!!
that's funny.
and crazy.
but pretty cool.
hope he gets the message.
why is it that everysong on this album EVERYONE thinks it is about joe,
come on i bet she wrote some of these songs even before she met joe.
oh my gosh! I feel so sorry for Taylor :( I look at Joe differently now, I still like him and the Jonas Brothers music but something has changed :S
awww.
the secret message for Best Days
was to her mom Andrea
I thought that was super sweett
and very clever if i MIGHT ADD;0
We don't think that all of the songs are about Joe, just this one, because Taylor said so, she wrote this the last minute and she said it was about Joe :/
she does it with all of her songs.
wow. that was a REALLY good one =)
ok seriously... everyone needs to shuttup bout this ;p
Maybe this is why Joe dumped her. She sounds a little obsessive. Even in the lyrics, it sounds like she was constantly calling him. Guys don's like it when girls come on strong like that.
oh my gosh! I feel so sorry for Taylor :( I look at Joe differently now, I still like him and the Jonas Brothers music but something has changed :S
I don't really think this is so clever.
That's already been done before.
You don't need a genius to figure this out.
LOL.
But the quote is pretty cool.
I like it.
TEAM JONAS
GET OVER IT
She also put one in you're not sorry.
if you look at it it spells out "she can have you"
wow! tht is clever
cleverrrrr
CLEVER
She's already a loser in my eyes, so...I don't really see her point.
I give lots of credit to her brilliant publicists.
Keep consuming her BS until you get sick,y'all and have fun.
Jonas FTW.
She is a PSYCHO!!!
Or her PR people have been good at making her look like one.
Run,Joe Jonas, run and never look back.
Nails in the coffin, TSwift, you're driving them in!
Is it our fault she's acting like a dumbass?
No.
Is it the Jonases?
Not really.
It's not worshipping them. It's feeling bad for them when someone acts like a moron and it reflects on them.
If it was anyone else I'd say the same thing. I only take not because it is Jonas-related...much like how I took notice of her career in the first place. It was sort of nice knowing her while it lasted, but now I feel used...I can only imagine how Joe feels.
You think he made a mistake,really?
I think, if this is evidence of what their relationship was like, he clearly made a very right decision.
It's too bad it has to play out in the public eyes though.
If he WAS having feelings for someone else, it was a sign he obviously wasn't in love with her. Breaking up was the right thing to do.
What do you all think he should have done? Lied to her? Stayed with her forever when he didn't have feelings for her just because that's what SHE wants? Flown home from Europe to deliver the message and flown back to Europe after the awkward 5 minutes it would take?
I think she's stretching the truth quite a bit and dramatizing it for show. The 27 second phone call was probably the last part of and ongoing argument/ending. She is glossing it over.
As a Jonas fan, I see no reason not to support Joe in this nuttiness.
We'll probably never know his side because he's decent enough not to blab about it out of respect for HER, even if we fans are totally curious to know his side.
Her behavior is classless...leave it in songs and out of interviews. I had no hard feelings towards her after the breakup. But she's lost a growing fan, in me.
. Fearless: i loved you before i met you.
2. Fifteen: i cried while recording this
3. Love Story: someday i’ll find this
4. Hey Stephen: love and theft
5. White Horse: all i ever wanted was the truth
6. You Belong With Me: love is blind so could you not see me
7. Breathe: i’m sorry, i’m sorry, i’m sorry..
8. Tell Me Why: guess i was fooled by your smile..
9. Your Not Sorry: she can have you
10. They Way I Loved You: we can’t go back
11. F&A: if you play these games we’re both going to lose
12. The Best Day: god bless andrea swift
13. Change: you made things change for me
wowIe, tHATs stangE..yeaH strangE..pooR joe!
i was wondering why some stuff was capatalized.
lol
I HATE TAYLOR!!
LOVE YA JOE!!
i def agree w/ u!!
all of this stuff that she is doing just proves how much she still loves joe, but taylor is whinning about it
i mean come on, ppl break up!! its a part of life
love ya joe
i def agree w/ u!!
all of this stuff that she is doing just proves how much she still loves joe, but taylor is whinning about it
i mean come on, ppl break up!! its a part of life
love ya joe
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well being that the breakup is still quite new why is it so surprising that she still might really care about him.
yea people breakup, but that doesn't mean your over it in a day. no ones mad about the breakup. most are mad about the reasons and how the breakup went down.
thats awesomeeeee!
its so hilarious.
people need to stfu about taylor being immature or not over joe, or that joe's a jerk
because they DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT ON IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP,
so they should all stfu.
HAHAHAHAHA GAYYYYY!
haha, I see... tHat's prEtty cool!!! but i Am wondeRing if all The songs were meant for him or Just a randOm idEa, sorta coincidential witH tHE whole Joe thIng? aww, man that'S So hard tO do!!!! i tried Capitalizing the letters i wanted to spell oUt That with thE letters but i can't!!!! :D
secret message to my little crush!!! :D
thats./
i dont even know what to say
wliaghkusgh
secret messages?
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hah!
cool!i love atylor my sis bought the cd and i notcied some letters were capitalized, but i didnt think anything of it
oh wow dat waz knida clever in a way thou!
she needs to move on already,
and stop being so obsessive.
I didnt even know who taylor was until she dated joe jonas. I love her music now! At least she got some good publicity out of him! harsh but true lol.
she needs to move on already,
and stop being so obsessive.
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im pretty sure you need to move on
and stop worrying about it so much.
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
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get off joes jock
hes not going to marry you.
ps. FEARLESS definitely a great album.
I think this is a PR stunt and how convienent her album just came out shes truly pathetic
I think this is a PR stunt and how convienent her album just came out shes truly pathetic
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lol. what are you talking about. this came from her album. she did the same thing on the last album. what does it have to do with publicity.
go taylor!
show that loser :)
poor tay :/
she's hurt.
and yeah, I loved 'forever and always' awesome song !
oh, and I love the jonas brothers, but sometimes they disapoint me...
wow.
very observant whoever-found-this-out.
i wouldnt hav noticed that, im dumb that way
taylor is such a cool girl
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
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why ?
because you want to marry joe jonas right ?
well , that's probably not going to happen .
OMG!Is she crying?????That's sad...:'(anyways,this pic is going on piczo...maybe
i think thats interesting and a good message.
i know what games he was playing...
camilla belle is such a fucking homewrecker.
I understand she's mad at him for breaking up with her over the phone, but seriously Grow Up. she keeps going on to shows and making video's trashing Joe, trying to make him look like the bad guy in all of this, when really she's the one looking like the bad guy cause she won't drop it. Joe hasn't said anything bad about Taylor, either in general or in retaliation, but she won't leave it be.
Now don't get me wrong, i love taylor. she is seriously awesome, but she needs to let this go and move on. the only thing she's doing is ruining her image.
and maybe it wasn't a message for Joe. this CD has been made and printed for months. it could be just a general message that a lot of people need to live by.
She leaves a message in every song. they are kinda hard to find though because the capital i's look like l's. :)
i've found them all awn both cds
t swift
i guess he did cheat.
jerk.
I just got her album and i found random capitol Letters in all the song
Fearless:I loved you before i met you
Fifteen:i cried while recording this
Love Story:Someday Ill Find this
Hey Stephen:love and theft
White Horse:All i ever wanted was the truth
You Belong with me:love is blind so you couldnt see me
Breathe:Im sorry im sorry im sorry
Tell Me Why:Guess i was fooled by your smile
You're Not Sorry: She can have you
The Way I Loved You:We cant go back
Forever & Always:If you play these games were both going to lose
The Best Day: God Bless Andrea Swift
Change:You Made THINGS change for me
ok, Taylor rocks. and she's amazing.
and for all of you that say shes being immature,
look at joe jonas. he broke up with her, over the phone!
seriously, come on.
and the messages in the song are for every song.
not just this one.
we know this, because in her albulm cover she capitalized certain words,
and said there were secret messages in all her lyrics.
they were in her last albulm, too.
team Taylor.
the jonas brothers suck.
nothing but heartbreakers.
I don't know how anyone can still look up to them.
I think that was a great idea with the capitolized letters haha.