Jonas Brothers VIRGINITY VOW Talk

LOL. Yeah, they've definitely done the deed. More power to 'em.

they're amazing.

UHH TALK ABOUT. WTF?!
is this even real? I don't think it's something they would say...

WHAT THE FUCK?
THEY HAVEN'T SAID THAT!!!!!!

The Jonas Brothers all practice abstinence and wear purity rings to prove it. Here’s a snippet from the very lengthy article on the JoBros featured in Details Magazine:

“On a quiet Friday morning in a dressing room at Madison Square Garden, the Jonas Brothers hold out their hands to show off their purity rings. Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas—the teen-pop trio who stand, at this very moment, on the brink of hugeness—wear the metal bands on their fingers to symbolize, as Joe puts it, ‘promises to ourselves and to God that we’ll stay pure till marriage.’

o dude!!!!!!!!! lmao ill bet anything joe and kevin... hell i say ALL OF THEM!!!a rent virgins anymore! lol i love them all but still!

no way!!

this is bullshit

haha NOOO!!!

i never thought they would keep the rings...
but i still love them

obviously they arent vigins.

That is so stupid, now theyre going back on what theyve been telling everyone. it wasnt the media, it was them bragging and showing it off.

the jonas brothers are lame, they were so last summer.

They said that??

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ok.. joe said "is a promise to God that we'll stay pure until marriage"....... how can THAT be taken out of context?.. um.. jonas brothers - promise to stay virgins til marriage.

and now they're saying it got "out of contexT" are u kidding me now? ...
they've SO done it. and now they are saying "it got out of context" cuz they ain't virgins any more!!! haha!

wtf?? you boys are a letdown

DUDE!!!!
Thats sounds TOTALLY MADE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nick said NOO??? sayy whhaa lol

just kidding about the say whaa but seriously nick said noo it was taken out of context??

first

:)

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
oh god im dyinggggg

i was just reading that article yesterday.......

the sad thing is that the teenies will buy it XD
they can get away with anything
they just lie and lie, it's hilarious

WTF???
oh well they look hawt in the picc. = D

this is bullshit!

but dude i bet kevin and joe aren't
virgins anymore!

They prob. just changed their minds when they all got horny hahaha.

someone was talking to someone VERY close to the jonas' and they said that nick believed in no sex b4 marriage the most.

LOL
GO MILEY, TAYLOR AND DANIELLE.

hahahaha omg... personally, i think they are probably still virgins, but i think they're worried about the future and now they're trying to cover up their tracks just in case something does happen. Also, people grow up, probably not Nick [although its possible] but Joe and especially Kevin are probably ready for sexual relationships.

I will continue to support them no matter what happens in their sex lives... that's they're business.

of course their not virgins,and any one that believes that they are is green as the grass

If you're so mature as you think you are, why don't you learn some good grammar? ;]

WTF?? 8l

i caaant beleeevee it xd' nonoonooo!
wooooow i hopee that nick still virgin¬¬ xd

Good.
That way I can get to Nicholas without geting in trouble.
Yvonne can have Kevin.
And Jonas 4 Canada ! can have Joseph.

;D

that article is obviously made up.

LOL they are soooo not virgins

riiiiiiight . they`ve already said a million and three times that they`re virgins . the brits hate them anyway . idk why . come on , REALLY ? THEY`RE AFRAID OF BRAS , I THINK THEY`RE VIRGINS , OCEANUP . you know better than to post shiz like this . . . then again , you don`t .

That sounds SO fake
but if it is or not, who cares!
It is their personal life and whether they are virgins or not doesn't change the fact that they play amazing music and I will still be a fan!

yeah, that's definitley made up,
i'm not saying they are virgins,
but they wouldn't just come out
& tell everyone straight up like that.
They have to keep the "pure" image up
for all their fans, & for Disney.

of course their not virgins,and any one that believes that they are is green as the grass

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they`re virgins , get over it . not everyone`s a manwhore .

Who cares the whole virgin thing is ridiculous...dont hate me for saying this...maybe i think this because im british and it is like nearly unheard of here!

it's real, teen now doesn't make stuff up.

definitly not virgins.

like come on. Joe is dating like a gorgeous girl and he's just not going to have sex with her. Yeah right.
what do you think they're doing when two go to some premiere and the other one doesn't.

i dont think it's any of our business.

sad part is that people are actually gonna BELIVE this shiz . they`ve told everyone that they`re staying pure til marriage , they`ve said that they`ll stay sexually pure til marriage , they`ve said that they won`t have sex til they`re married . . . need i go on ? i think you get the point . they`re virgins get over it .

I agree, Americans are very into this whole "purity" thing and call anyone who isn't a virgin a "slut". Ah well, just one more reason to laugh at them.

I knew it. They did it at first bcuz they rlly did want
It for maridge but lately they have been
Gay

Who believes this?
(not me)
whoever does is just plain fuckin retarded

i dont think they said that..but i dont think they are virgins..i think kevin fucked dennelle, i think joe fucked camila, and i think nick has done sumthing with miley..

and you know this how? oh, wait, you don't.

they have sed that the rings are not only about staying pure till marriage but also about there values. there saying that that one meaning of it got taken out of hand.

I'd love them if they were virgins or not.
This seems fake, I DOUBT they'd say that even if they aren't virgins.

Teen Now is actually very reliable. Mostly pictures, a few interviews, etc. Nothing too outlandish. I believe it.

They prob. just changed their minds when they all got horny hahaha.
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this made me smile :). but seriously ?!
did they really say this ? it got taken
out of context ?! wtf they always we say
the rings show our promise to god to stay
pure until marriage. hmm that means that
you promise that you WONT have sex until
marriage. i mean we all know what purity
rings are for. i swear to god if this is
real i probably will hate them. because
they lied. gah i'm so pissed right noww.

This is NOT REAL. That magazine is a tabloid, it's SUPPOSED to be funny, guys.

Only the little ones are supposed to believe it.
Seriously, guys?
-OceanUP

Who caressss!
doesn't change the fact that they play great music!
It's their personal life, no one should care!

this is bullshit
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Totally. They would never talk about it like that.

wow.

i think nick did miley
lmao
i reallly do think that
i mean why else would the pictures be out that were sent to him

hahahahhahaha AGGREED

I don't think its any of our business if they are virgins or not. it's their decision and their private life.

teen now isn't a tabloid, it's a regular magazine
they've never made anything up before
and you're not oceanup -.-

OH MY! I did not see that coming. I have to say I'm slightly disappointed. I think they're purity was part of their appeal. I doubt they are still virgins even if it is none of my business. I think it's weird that people have asked them that before and they were like yeah...and now they're like no...and other stars have admitted to staying pure till marriage...and even though technicially the rings could mean whatever you want...they are called PURITY RINGS for a reason. I think I just kind of lost a little respect for them. Not because they aren't pure (and they still could be for all I know) but because they basicially lied for years...ughh...why are they doing this to me...

seriously this is complete bs! jb has said that they
will remain pure till marriage on their own website!
and ppl who believe this are soooooooo
gullible. oceanup this is pathetic and low

I agree, Americans are very into this whole "purity" thing and call anyone who isn't a virgin a "slut". Ah well, just one more reason to laugh at them.

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Yeah its pretty funny! I dont know where you are from but i know that if americans came to england(where im from) nearly everyone would be a 'slut' to them!

Good.
That way I can get to Nicholas without geting in trouble.
Yvonne can have Kevin.
And Jonas 4 Canada ! can have Joseph.

;D
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Ummm - Jonas 4 Canada and I have a deal - we're sharing Joe; he's too much for one girl!

OMG!!
I don´t mind if they are virgins or not
but now they are trying to denie it and that it was out of context?? everybody knows what´s a purity ring and the do too..
so that makes me think a lot
NICK SAID NO???? OOO I didn´t expected that...
all the purity ring was because of dysney and i thought because of their promise and have they benig lying??

well it doesn´t matter.. i still love them and i always be lol

and i´M PRETTY SURE KEVIN IS NOT VIRGIN his relationship with danielle is really strong and...well

and JOE I THINK IS NOT VIRGIN !!HAHAH PRETTY SURE
you know it´s the loveley and crazy joe!

and NICK,, well i thougt he was ""keepping the promise""
but what he said makes me think..
with sel??...no wayy!(she is cute but.. i don´t know lol)

I think Nick is the only virgin. Kevin has been dating Danielle for a while now and i wouldn't be surprised nor would I care if they had sex, they'll probably end up getting married one day anyway.
And joe... definitively isn't a virgin.

lol... that made me lol- afraid of bras rofl

... but this article does seem fake (im no jonas fan)
and i dont beleieve they are virgins anymore
for one, kevin and joe are old enough for sexual relationships

and nick... after seeing mileys pictures she sent to him (with her chewing on her shirt, with her shirt pulled up... especially the one in the shower )- i doubt hes a virgin

i really don't think they said that.

this so isn't true! I don't believe it.

but if it is, then they've disappointed me.

is this even real??

Good.
That way I can get to Nicholas without geting in trouble.
Yvonne can have Kevin.
And Jonas 4 Canada ! can have Joseph.

;D
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Ummm - Jonas 4 Canada and I have a deal - we're sharing Joe; he's too much for one girl!
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KK jersey.
You can have him, too.
But that would be slightly awkward...

OMG!!
I don´t mind if they are virgins or not
but now they are trying to denie it and that it was out of context?? everybody knows what´s a purity ring and the do too..
so that makes me think a lot
NICK SAID NO???? OOO I didn´t expected that...
all the purity ring was because of dysney and i thought because of their promise and have they benig lying??

well it doesn´t matter.. i still love them and i always be lol

and i´M PRETTY SURE KEVIN IS NOT VIRGIN his relationship with danielle is really strong and...well

and JOE I THINK IS NOT VIRGIN !!HAHAH PRETTY SURE
you know it´s the loveley and crazy joe!

and NICK,, well i thougt he was ""keepping the promise""
but what he said makes me think..
with sel??...no wayy!

TAKE THIS DOWN!

bull shit, this is so fake.
jb wouldn't say that.
i love them.

riiiiiiight . they`ve already said a million and three times that they`re virgins . the brits hate them anyway . idk why . come on , REALLY ? THEY`RE AFRAID OF BRAS , I THINK THEY`RE VIRGINS , OCEANUP . you know better than to post shiz like this . . . then again , you don`t
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yea i hope they still are virgins

WOAH JOE'S GETTING IT ON WITH CAMILLA!!!! SHHHH....

It's amazing to me that some of you around here can't even imagine someone staying a virgin until marriage.

Now that's sad.

riiiiiiight . they`ve already said a million and three times that they`re virgins . the brits hate them anyway . idk why . come on , REALLY ? THEY`RE AFRAID OF BRAS , I THINK THEY`RE VIRGINS , OCEANUP . you know better than to post shiz like this . . . then again , you don`t .

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OMFG LMFAO!!!!!! YOU MT FRIEND JUST MADE MY DAY!!!!!!^^^

its possible that there not but, idk its a personal question. only they know if they did or not, its not like any of us know them personally...

i think they r also embarrassed too that they have them.

i think the only reason why they got them was so no one would suspect them doing it, if they have a purity ring .

i <3 ~`* JB *`~

Who cares. It's their life. But I honestly don't think they are virgins. Especially since Sel has ditched her purity ring all of a sudden lol

THIS IS SO FAKE ! COMEON OCEANUP STOP POSTING ALL THIS FAKE STUFF ! YOU KNO WHAT... IM DONE WITH THIS WEBSITE ! THE JONAS BROTHERS SAID STRAIGHT UP "WE ARE STAYING PURE UNTIL MARRIAGE" IF THEY DID LOSE THEIR VIRGINITY THEY WOULDNT COME OUT AND SAY IT !!! WHICH THEY DID NOT LOSE THEIR VIRGINITY... BUT YOU KNOW WHAT EVEN IF THEY DID WHO CARES ! I WILL STILL LOVE THEM BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY A TRUE FAN AND I DONT CARE ABOUT THEYRE PPERSONAL LIFE ! I LOVE THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR AND THEYRE AMAZING MUSIC !
<3 jb <3

I bet Selena raped Nick, a la, "What's my name, BITCH?!"

they're saying that now because they cant take all the craP and making fun of them ahahahaha losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they suck anyway!

Good.
That way I can get to Nicholas without geting in trouble.
Yvonne can have Kevin.
And Jonas 4 Canada ! can have Joseph.

;D
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Ummm - Jonas 4 Canada and I have a deal - we're sharing Joe; he's too much for one girl!
----------------------
KK jersey.
You can have him, too.
But that would be slightly awkward...

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LOL! Not at the same time!

this article is bs.

and why do people automatically think your having
sex when you're in a relationship. people
have become so slutty and and think about sex 24/7.

UGHHH I'm so confused...I don't know whether to believe it or not...I was so sure it was true for the first two seconds so my first comment is...interesting...idk...I love them anyways...a lot of my friends aren't virgins but I still love them and it shouldn't be any different with them because they are famous...its their business anyways...im just going to forget about it...

this is bs oceanup

pfff wat what they say now....just because ppl started to make fun of them!

definitly not virgins.

like come on. Joe is dating like a gorgeous girl and he's just not going to have sex with her. Yeah right.
what do you think they're doing when two go to some premiere and the other one doesn't.

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Uh, my brother goes places that I don't go. We aren't attacthed at the fucking hip. Just because I'm not with him 24/7 doesnt mean I'm out having sex with guys.
Relationships aren't all about sex, you know. It's sad that that's what society thinks nowadays.

omg, this subject again..let them have something to belive in..
I mean if you dont agree..do what you want with your life..if they want it, let them be
happy and have a solid life..what the bad thing about it?!!!
these rumors and ppl trying to make another connotation to their words is just sad.

Actually, the magazine "Teen Now" didn't say this. I hope you guys know that this entire website is just for kicks.

-OceanUP

wowwww.
oceanup sucks lately.
all they're posting [[well, mostly]] are lies...

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
i love these boys.
oh so much.

i don't think this is tue .. they would never say something like that, BUT i still think that joe and kevin are not virgins at all

hey everybody check out this new [gossip] site!

http://gossipland.wordpress.com/

THIS IS HILARIOUS
SO THEY R BASICALLY TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY DONT WANNA BE VIRGINS TILL MARRAGE
HAHAHHA OK FINEEE
they r still hottt

Oceanup why would you post this? You love drama huh? I DONT want to believe this. I hope its not true or just a misunderstandin!

GOOD.
lmfao
i knew the whole purity rings
were bullshit publicty stunts.
Shit more power to them if their not,
i think its even sexier, makes
m more attracted to them.lmfaoXD

LOVE THSES BOYS!<33

they're virgins. get over it.

abahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
this is the funniest shit i've ever read.

This is Fake in my Opinion because there have been
MANY and i mean MANY times when they say that it
means they will stay Pure till marriage and now
they are saying this???? i don't think so. i hope
they are still Pure because if they are not i would
not care because i have loved them since 2005 and
that won't change.

LMFAO

okay I dont care what they do....it's their lives...the only thing that bugs me is they are totally CHANGING what they did in fact say in video interviews "to stay pure till marriage."

but maybe this article is messed up. whatever. over it.

Okay so this is my thrid comment but whatever...it sounds like maybe the jonas brothers did say those things but they skipped around...like they put different questions in front of the answers...i don't think it was the meaning of their rings that were taken out of context...i think it was this interview...stupid media...

It's amazing to me that some of you around here can't even imagine someone staying a virgin until marriage.

Now that's sad.
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i agree. why do people think sex isn't a big
deal and think those who are waiting till
marriage are prudes. people are so ignorant.

what the hell is wrong with you guys? were supposed to be fans and you guys know better then t think that they are not virgins. this article is obviously fake, you guys disgust me. do not call yourselves fans if you guys are questioning there purity. you guys know what a big deal it is for them and it must be embarassing for guys to admit that they are virgins so just leave it alone. god!

i do not believe this. i think it's made up.
in one interview they say the rings are "vows to stay pure until marriage" and now you are telling me they said "they aren't virginity vows" someone is not telling the truth. i believe the boys are virgins.
and honestly, its pisses me off when people say other wise. maybe you should trust and believe them.

Who cares the whole virgin thing is ridiculous...dont hate me for saying this...maybe i think this because im british and it is like nearly unheard of here!

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so brits are sluts ? ew .

haha really?

why did they wait so long to correct it,

i would love to bang one now (:

yeah, they totally did the dirty.

i really doubt this magazine is telling the truthh

Of course they are not virgins... How can 3 boys that hot and famous not have sex until they are married lol!!!!

Are you REALLY want to start this crap again?!!!

They made a vow and have personal beliefs. WHAT I SWRONG WITH THAT?
This article is twisting their words around!
They said that the media is making such a big deal that they are staying pure till marriage!

LMFAO

this article is bs.

and why do people automatically think your having
sex when you're in a relationship. people
have become so slutty and and think about sex 24/7.

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Sex is a big part of everybodies life get over it! Just because you have sex doesnt make you a slut! If one of these boys has had sex who cares...i mean one of them is 21 and another 19...its gonna happen sometime!!!

This is fake.
They have said in dozens of interviews that they wear purity rings.
I 100% believe in those boys.
I'm not naive and believe every word that comes out of their mouths
but they've been wearing those rings long before they made it big.
Those rings are not for publicity, it's because they actually have morals.

Maybe if this was coming from a creditable source that ISNT "Teen Now" I would
possibly take it into consideration. If the boys break their vows, that's their buisness
But i whole heartedly believe that they wont.

I wudn't mind if this were real, but Nick
said himself that the rings mean they won't
have sex until they're married!

?us? ?lq?qo?d ?o?

who would actuallly be a virgin be 4 they r married i would so do nick

nahh cause me and all three of them did it

I call B.S
Magazines make up stories all the time.Espicially unknown, unpopular magazines that are directed towards naive teens
like the one at hand

Good.
That way I can get to Nicholas without geting in trouble.
Yvonne can have Kevin.
And Jonas 4 Canada ! can have Joseph.

;D
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Ummm - Jonas 4 Canada and I have a deal - we're sharing Joe; he's too much for one girl!
----------------------
KK jersey.
You can have him, too.
But that would be slightly awkward...

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LOL! Not at the same time!
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Oh, thank God.
Haha.

Though, seriously, guys, I doubt that this is real. I mean, it could be, but they HAVE made it clear in several interviews that they ARE staying virgins 'till marrige. =/

If this is fake then I can breathe a sigh of relief but if it's real.......WTF??!!?!?!? They lied aaaaaand Miley probably raped Nick. Stole his virginity. -_-

who would actuallly be a virgin be 4 they r married i would so do nick

:( i hope its not true

I bet Selena raped Nick, a la, "What's my name, BITCH?!"

FAKE!! even if they weren't virgins....they wouldnt say it like that.....this magazine twisted their words around. not everything u hear is true.

this is SO fake.

this is just one of the bad rumours that magazines cant think of anything else to write about.

Okay , what the hell ?
what is this fuckery ?
i dont know what it is anyways.

if they're virgins, kay.
if they are NOT , kay.
idont really care.
i still love themm

ok joe said "its a promise to God that we'll stay pure until marriage" how can THAT be taken out of context?.. ???????????

DISNEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY must be madd!

I COULD really care less,
they can do whatever they want to.
they are just like us,
i still love these boys
and think that joe is icredibly sexi!
hahaaGO JB!
FCK ALL U HATERS!
I SWEAR ALL THOSE ANONYMOUS PPL
THAT SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT THE JONAS BROTHERS
ARE THE SAME PERSON!
GET A FCKIN LIFE LOSERS!

you guys dont know if camillas his girlfriend. so what he took her out on a few dates and thats not a big deal.. if she was his girlfriend she wouldve went to the grammys to support him and she didnt and i dont think mrs. jonas would like her just because she is older and sexy and not very conservative and it seems to me that shes using joe for some publicity for the movie and joe knows its bad when his mama doesnt like her ;)! i think him and camilla are just friends and he took her out a few times

xoxo gina

haha!
well actually, Joseph belongs to many people ;)

Oh my days!

Brits don't "hate" the Jonas Brothers coz i'm a brit and i love them :P

Also who really cares if they are virgins or not? If you think about it, when they get married they aren't gonna be virgins and they are kids (KINDA)

Just don't get stressy espically as thing is probably FAKE

they aren't afraid of bras, is called Joe
didn't catch it and looked at it and was like o
okay. C'mon, if he finds girls hot who do
photoshoots in lingerie (coughcoughMeganFox, Camilla
Belle, not jealous though, just sayin) then he
is NOT afraid of a bra!

first of all...magazines quote people wrong all the time... and that isnt even a real magazie...british magazine...watever. thats not true and people shouldnt believe anything and everythin they read. if it didnt come out their mouth personally....its not true. they would never put stuff out in the open like that. this is bull

THE SAD THING IS THAT IF THE VIRGIN THING ISNT TRUE THEY HAVE LIED TO MILLIONS OF FANS.....

Who cares the whole virgin thing is ridiculous...dont hate me for saying this...maybe i think this because im british and it is like nearly unheard of here!

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so brits are sluts ? ew .

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In your eyes maybe...but your obviously a little girl who needs to grow up! Having sex does not make you a 'slut'...that word is used totally out of context all of the time!

ya but pure cud mean something else I think...
I dunno I'm not Christian so I don't know
what the spiritual and religious meaning
of pure is.

haha!
well actually, Joseph belongs to many people ;)
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Of course!
Who could forget that? ;D

But, remember, if this is true then the "magical parts" are now up for grabs.
*winkwink*

i was this was true, just so they could be not so perfect for once

love them though!

thats bull shit! oceanup YOU SUCK ASS!!!!!!

I hope this is fake, im so sure it is.
and if not then i think they are NOT Vs.
joe did it with camilla belle :P

Okay, I REALLY don't believe this. They we're really believing in that purity ring. They were really serious about it all, and even if this was true, I don't think they'd say it like that. I also think that they will live up to what they promised, and that they'll stay virgins until they're married ;]

haha!
well actually, Joseph belongs to many people ;)
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Of course!
Who could forget that? ;D

But, remember, if this is true then the "magical parts" are now up for grabs.
*winkwink*
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DIBS!:D

Who cares the whole virgin thing is ridiculous...dont hate me for saying this...maybe i think this because im british and it is like nearly unheard of here!

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so brits are sluts ? ew .

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NO we're not! Your the one who has Paris Hilton cough sex tape cough.

i think nick did miley
lmao
i reallly do think that
i mean why else would the pictures be out that were sent to him
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i think the opposite he wanted to be with miley and she said no! she wanted to wait until marriage! and maybe that why they really broke up! because on her song fly on the wall she says "you always second guess,wondering,if i say yes but you just lose out every time" umm does that explain everything miley would say no! what you really think that meant that why they probably broke up they needed a break to breath because they were too much into each other and didnt want to break her promise and he dump her! and try with sel who knows is just a theory! or they both needed a break so they wouldnt break their promised because they allready knew each other for a long time and after a while it gets really serious and too comfortable and it was getting very dangerous for both! that on nick! i dont know am just guessing but on kevin well danielle travels with them so umm! it makes you wonder! and as for joe well if he was a virgin he is dating an older women with a lot more experience than him um she probably knows what button to hit! so all this backing up is interesting is because hollywood is making fun of them! but i dont think no one should make fun of them that their personal preference but you know you can always tried to stay pure is easier when you live with your parents and they are watching you but now kevin is going on 22 and joe 21 so they are man not teenagers! and nick hormones must be going while now because this is the time boys are growing! but it all depends on the girl in reality and in them! but i wouldnt be surprised now a days is hard their is so much commercial and nick is hanging out with guys older than him who already have been with someone everyone nick is hanging out with are way older than him including his brothers! so he must hear talk about girls all the time when the guys are hanging out so he must pretty much hear every story on the book!!

FAKE.

wtf? seriously? this is crap.

they are normal teenage boys and kevin is 21 and im sure they wanna have sex and honestly people kevin and danielle are so banging!

i doubt this is true but if it is well i dont really care its their life not mine

i seriously hope not.
because if they did...
everything they've said for the past 2-3 years have been lies.

yeah.
everyone has their own views on no sex till marrige.
but seriously.
if you promise something like that..
and the whole world knows about it.
aannndd millions of teens are looking up to them.
and they've just broken it like that.
what does that say about the world?
that even the people we thought were the good guys,
lied and screwed everyone over.

way to go.

but even if it is true,
who do you think was the one who gave in?
haha :)